DIY Cruise Missile
Posted 3 May 2003 at 14:21 UTC by steve 
The cruise missile was the one of the first widely deployed forms of
fully autonomous military robot. In May of 2002, Bruce
Simpson published an article claiming that
it should be relatively easy for anyone with a little technical
knowledge to build thier own cruise missle for about $5,000. His article
was met with more than a little skepticism. Now he's going to prove it by
building
one. His vehicle will have a range of 160 Km, a top speed of about
600 Kph, and carry a 10 Kg payload. He plans to use only off-the-shelf
parts, mostly obtained on eBay, spend less than $5,000, and will be
keeping an online
diary of his progress.
As the technology gets cheaper and more widely available I'm sure all
manner of destructive weapons could be constructed.
However, I think people ought to take a sensible view and not seek to
promote or provide details of the construction of such weapons. I
think what prevents terrorists or rogue regimes from arming themselves
in this way isn't lack of raw materials but the knowledge of how to use
them. Most terrorists (except the evil masterminds, obviously)
probably have a very low level of education.
I'm sure that if people in the robotics community don't adopt a certain
amount of self-censorship then governments will start imposing silly
laws about what people can and can't do in their garden sheds at
weekends.
- Bob
censorship, posted 4 May 2003 at 15:54 UTC by steve »
(Master)
If you read the FAQ associated with the project, this question is
addressed. His argument is that terrorists could easily hire engineers
smarter than the average hobbyist and probably could find engineers
with detailed knowledge of real weapsons systems, so they don't need his
plans to build one of these. His main goal is to convince the general
public, who apparently don't take the threat seriously, that terrorists
really could do this. He points out that he's published no information
that wasn't already widely available both on-line and in textbooks. If
he's correct, censoring the project would actually benefit the
terrorists more than the free world.
Missiles, posted 4 May 2003 at 17:23 UTC by motters »
(Master)
I don't think it would be easy for a terrorist to construct such a
weapon, and attempting to hire engineers for the task would immediately
raise suspicion. However, as he points out most of the parts are cheap
and off the shelf and none of them taken individually are ostensibly
sinister.
Even if information on weapons construction is available elsewhere I
don't think that's an excuse to increase the availability of such
information by putting it on websites. This can surely only assist
people with evil intentions.
Assuming that such a weapon could be constructed I doubt that there
could be any effective protection against it other than preventing it
from being built in the first place. This means limiting the
information about these devices to only a few sources the access to
which can then be more carefully controlled by authorities.
- Bob
This guy doesn't seem to be an average hobbyist to me. However I'm
sure if the government had a problem with him, they would let him
know. Besides, there is always the possibility the government wants to
wait quietly and see if he actually builds a missile. I'm sure the
government would glean a lot of useful information about stuff like
purchasing habits of people trying to build cruise missles.
I'm uneasy about sites like this too and I'm really not interested in
seeing such sites. However, it doesn't take a genius to make
something destructive for $5000. I don't really see a need for a DIY
cruise missle except to educate (read scare) the public. Who knows
what lurks in the basements of America? Dwelling on that thought, I'd
guess a DIY Cruise missle is not the greatest of our worries. I don't
think people need a recipe available for such things, though. I guess
all in all, I'd be more concerned about a teenager trying to put one
together and then blowing himself up, than worring whether terrorists
are wasting their time with being more sophisticated.
It is frustrating that the government pays $1 million a missle or more
when this guy can make one for $5000, albeit probably nowhere near the
capabilities of the $1 million missle.
Now, if someone could post a DIY Cruise Ship, now that would be cool.
You KNOW what FEDGOV's response will be..
Look at the way the Second amendment has been attacked.
If that's any indication, then get ready for soldering iron licenses and
"forbidden" information and components. Congressional hearings on what
we "need" in the way of hobby related electronic components and what we
can't be trusted with.. Paranoid nutcases duct taping themselves in
their houses and the media pumping the fear factor for all it's worth..
ETC.
I REALLY wish he wouldn't do this..
Remember the complete and total over-reaction to even the mere thought
that Iraq might have "unmanned drones" (and they showed a picture of a
little, olive drab, RC airplane to accompany this) People went bonkers..
"Drones! AHHHH! Where's my duct tape. Help!"
Truth be known, there is probably much more to fear from some nutcase
microbiologist with a garden sprayer and a $1500.00 panel van..
But, common sense won't stop the regulators from encroaching on your
next project if it's deemed to be politically expedient.
Hmmm... , posted 9 May 2003 at 14:04 UTC by steve »
(Master)
Sounds more like the real problem is an over-zealous government, not
hobbiests. Fortunately, this guy isn't in the US, so he should have any
troubles. He couldn't even order an Estes model rocket engine if he
lived here, since those have now been deemed terrorist tools and their
shipping outlawed...