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Friendly AI for the Singularity

Posted 19 Apr 2001 at 13:59 UTC by steve Share This

The marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation defines a robot as your plastic pal who's fun to be with. Eliezer Yudkowsky of the Singularity Institute has released a draft of an essay on how to assure that this will be the case - or at least that any AI eventually developed will be friendly enough to allow the continued existence of humans. The question is, would you take the advice of someone quoted as saying, " If it comes down to Us or Them, I'm with Them." ? (Those familiar with the works of Saberhagen might apply the term Goodlife to Yudkowsky.) Wired has a nice summary if you don't care to read the full treatise.

Egads! Killer Tomatoe Robots on the Loose! AHHHHhhhhhhh!!!!, posted 19 Apr 2001 at 17:31 UTC by The Swirling Brain » (Master)

When I started reading the Wired Article, one of the first things that came to mind was Monty Python's killer sheep. Ahhhh! Then I thought of the collective conciousness of the Borg, yeah, lets all get brain transmitters and connect...

Wow, this guy is really a case isn't he! He's a high school drop out. He's paranoid that killer robots may come as early as tomorrow. And, he's devoted his entire life to being friendly to robots that will surely kill us all. Did this guy have friends in school? Oh, and he's only 21 years old (virtually a baby?). I mean this guy needs to take a chill pill and be beaten with a clue stick.

I remember back before the 80's that people thought that by the 80's we'd all be wearing rocket packs and have flying cars to get around and by 1984... well, you know. Hey, it's year 2001 and we still haven't had a serious space odyssey, colonized the moon or even had an earthling set foot on mars! Pretty much nothing has really changed under the sun. There's some faster computers, but MS and Windows helped to slow them all down for us. There's still cars, but no significant flying car advancements, that I have seen. We've sent a rolling camera to mars, but nothing much else too exciting.

Now mind you the government REALLY DOES have space aliens somewhere in a hanger or underground at area 51, and REALLY, the fractal changing robots are all set to attack us and CONTROL OUR BRAINS and even the government besides warehousing the Ark of the Covenant has also created warp drive capable space ships and brain ethernet transmitter devices, but they're just keeping all that vital information from us for the time when SkyNet and T2 can reign unabated throughout the galaxy.

Gimme a break! This guy needs a wife, then he'll know something really horrifying by being linked with one of incomprehensible intelligences in our galaxy that he'll need to deal and which already exists today! Hopefully this guy won't hand out koolaid to everyone and talk about the coming of spaceships to take away only the souls of those who have died in a cyborg body like some sort of JimJones cult figure. What a case this guy is. How would you like to be brain linked to him???

humans vs robots, posted 19 Apr 2001 at 21:01 UTC by steve » (Master)

I was more impressed by the fact that he wants to help the AI break humans down into spare parts for their nanatechnology. I guess it's not suprising though - every collection of killer robots in SF has at least one human that for some reason wants to side with the robots against humanity. In this case apparently because he wants to see humans replaced by a superior life form. The Daleks had Davros, the Berserkers had Goodlife, and now the Singularity has Yudkowsky.

He's no friend of mine, posted 19 Apr 2001 at 21:51 UTC by The Swirling Brain » (Master)

He wants friendly robots and AI yet he's more friendly with the robots than he is with the humans. There's something unfriendly about that. Why can't we all just get along???

But I don't want to be assimilated!, posted 19 Apr 2001 at 22:25 UTC by The Swirling Brain » (Master)

There used to be some show back in the 70's called ?"The Wave"? where some school teacher did some expirament to see just how people would follow someone or something like a type of Hitler. It's like he's so deluded he's following himself and his own deluded beliefs. He seems narrow minded in that he believes his ideas are the only ones that can be the right ones and that only what he has dreamed up will be how the future will be. It's like he dreamed up his own religion and declared himself the prophet and future seer. No one knows the future and rarely has anyone been able to predict anything close to what the future actually became. What makes him so arrogant as to think he knows for sure what the future will be? He was so sure of the imminent future that he quit high school just to proclaim his beliefs! Next thing we'll see, he'll be taking out full page ads in the newspapers to preach to us his beliefs. I guess he wants a god to worship so he's planning on making one for himself and making everyone be converts whether they want to be or not.

He talks like you have to be a part of the borg or die. Resistance is futile. I think he's been watching too much star trek. Seems this guy thinks everyone and everything will either become part of his singularty thing or cease to exist. It's like the parabola of progress goes from near zero to infinity in the blink of an eye. Perhaps he should scale his parabola a little more toward moore's law than just "it will happen tomorrow". Maybe he can make a screen saver to show how us non-assimilator types survive in the game of life cycle works if they don't become part of his singularity? At least that would be entertaining. Ahhh!

"The more that things change the more they stay the same."

The guy is seriously mixed up into sci-fi fantasy. I think it's funny how he has genuine concern for pulling the plug on a computer program like it's alive. He's probably a meat eater too. Reminds me of animal activists or tree huggers who have more concern for stepping on a cockroach or a hurting pine tree than for human life. This guy is more concerned with unplugging a computer than whether humans survive. It's like some star trek flick where we can't destroy nano-probes or self changing robots or even Data himself in favor of human life. I guess this guy's been reading too much Sci-fi and the Author C Clark religion with the transcendence of robot to a man and the ethics thereof. BTW I personally liked Blade Runner and the person that Harrison Ford ran away with who was virtually human, I thought that was a cool concept movie. I mean it's all storybook fantasy of robots transcending to people and on further to something more than people have become. This is not real stuff and this stuff won't happen tomorrow. Even if it did, why would we let anything be masters over us? We would never want to be slaves of a machine. If some machine were to take control would we let it? Daleks, T2, and borg are our friends, yeah, lets be friendly!!! Alright!

I think the guy is just living in a fantasy world if he really believes what he believes.

Robot and AI philosophy class 101, posted 19 Apr 2001 at 22:28 UTC by The Swirling Brain » (Master)

Ok, wouldn't it be funny to see a bunch of robots going to the church of singularity?

Swirling Replies, posted 19 Apr 2001 at 23:34 UTC by steve » (Master)

Sounds like this guy really gets to you! Maybe you need to write a treatise of your own: The Swirling Brain's Guide to Friendly AI ;-)

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